This is a subaru forum comparing cvt vs manual xmission. Both units help with acceleration as well, while the cvt helps in the fueleconomy department. Awd quick question auto with cvt, or manual with viscous. Used subaru outback with manual transmission for sale cargurus. Cvt warranty extension 201015 subaru outback forums. The fully synchronized gears of the 5 or 6speed manual transmissions make every shift smooth and efficient for fluid and exciting acceleration. The level 1 economy choice subaru automatic transmission is essentially a used item that we inspect and reassemble with tested and serviceable components. Doc subaru outback manual vs automatic transmission.
Subaru is extending the warranty for owners of certain subaru models with the cvt transmission. Not only does the 2010 outback sport a rugged new look, it offers a host of improvements. When in d drive and i downshift using the paddles, for example from 6 to 4,the transmission stays in that gear even when you accelerate or decelerate, for 30 35 seconds, this can be a problem when trying to merge into traffic since the transmision should downshift to 3 or 2 when you step on it. The fifth generation legacyoutback and the jdm subaru exiga received a newly. Brett discusses the internal workings of the subaru cvt transmission and how it works. Well, i cant speak to the 2010 outback auto cvt but i can give my experience thus far with the 6speed manual.
Owners of a 2010 subaru outback or legacy equipped with a cvt transmission may need to make an unscheduled visit to their subaru dealer due to. Aug 02, 2012 the national highway traffic safety administration, or nhtsa, has issued the following recalls for the 201011 subaru outback. Given more protective body cladding and elevated eight inches from the ground, the outback became the perfect platform to highlight the capabilities of subarus symmetrical allwheel drive system. The reason that i ask is because of the mention of a 4 speed automatic transmission, a 5speed manual trans, and a cvt. Jun 23, 2019 the response was the 2010 legacy outback that featured the cvt in all those models except for the ones with the h6 engine and the units witgh a manual transmission. Dependable and lightweight manual transmissions give passionate drivers the control to express their personal driving style. Tsb 1690r this tsb covered the 20102012 legacy and outback following customers experienced sensations similar to coming to a stop in a manual transmission and failing to depress the clutch. Outback 2010 cvt fluid, how do you refill it after an. My subaru is the fourcylinder thing is the small fourcylinder with automa. In 6speed manual mode, paddle shifters are mounted for fingertip control. My 2010 subaru outback is supposedly in need of a new torque converter.
Oct 27, 2017 the rugged estate lacks the glitzy appeal of models such as the audi a4 allroad, but get to know the subaru and youll find that its many hidden talents run deep. You should probably state why you want a manual transmission in a cuv. My 2010 outback with the cvt transmission is my 4th subaru, and until now i was a very happy subaru owner. The issues have forced subaru to extend their cvt warranty. What i thought was strange about this is the manual identifies replacement at 24,855 miles if the severe driving criteria are met. Dont look for subaru to drop the cvt automatic transmission. The owners manual has a picture of its location, but i just dont see it. Jan 07, 2020 like the steering wheel paddle shifters in your new 2020 subaru outback, forester, crosstrek or ascent, most owners dont use the vehicles xmode feature much if at all. Paddle shifting in auto mode and manual mode, gives some spirited driving options for us cvt owners. Subaru auto vs manual offroad comparison after my first test of the new auto off road i am not sure if i am sold on the auto or not. Can i move the subaru mobile internet router to another 2010 or 2011 outback. The issue with cvts, especially for gear heads and car guys and gals, is they are generally considered soulless. The 2010 legacy and outback models offer a sixspeed manual as one of the two transmission options in the base 2.
This video shows the performance of the subaru outback cvt transmission for startstop situations in reverse, with and without vdc enabled. Mechanical engineer with 20 years experience in the auto industry, 8 yrs in formula 1 engine. The response was the 2010 legacy outback that featured the cvt in all those models except for the ones with the h6 engine and the units witgh a manual transmission. Subaru has begun offering an extended warranty for the automatic transmission on about 1.
The extended warranty covers the 201015 legacy and outback. Soa is extending the new car limited powertrain warranty coverage for the continuously variable transmission cvt on the above listed models and model years from the original five 5 years or sixty thousand 60,000 miles whichever comes first to ten 10 years or onehundred thousand 100,000 miles. In automatic mode, it adjusts instantly to match your acceleration. Its likely that a spike in outofwarranty claims and online complaints helped drive this change, as well as the potential of future litigation if subaru didnt act soon. Better fuel economy, but also subaru seems to have put things together in a way that maximizes the cvt over the manual. New subaru owners may qualify for a vehicle modification reimbursement. The most recently reported issues are listed below. I have a newer 2017 subaru outback lesson 10,000 miles. Subaru recognizes that most sports car owners and drivers prefer a manual transmission. When downshifting with a manual transmission, an engine will often overrev when a lower gear is selected, potentially leading to engine failure. The extended warranty covers the 2010 15 legacy and outback. The outbacks loyal following is legendary and the envy of many car makers, so much so that the outback. My wife and i have been driving manual xmissions for well over million miles.
On june 08, 2010, subaru recalled 29,443 subaru outback. Find out if you qualify for our free subaru roadside assistance. The fully synchronized gears of the 5 or 6speed manual transmissions make every shift. Automatic transmissionequipped legacys and outbacks are. Three types of symmetrical allwheel drive featured across outback line. Before i say anything else, one thing right off the bat is that a manual transmission will likely have much less operating expenses over 1020 years then the cvt. In order to refill your cvt transmission on your 2010, you must first remove the filler plug which is located on the drivers side of the transmission. The subaru outback sprung from the nowdefunct legacy wagon to become an instant hit. I own a 21010 subaru outback with the cvt transmission. I own a 98 subaru legacy outback, manual transmission. Subaru impreza turbo vs honda integra type r dc2 nurburgring nordschleife battle. If i had to choose between a 2016 subaru forester with the cvt or the manual transmission, theres only two reasons why id pick the manual transmission over the cvt. Among the most notable is a new continuouslyvariable transmission cvt on fourcylinder models, a new 3. If youre interested in a specific brand of subaru outback manual transmission seals products, we carry popular brands like national.
Subaru outback 2010 with cvt transmission bought new. Truedelta 2010 subaru outback transmission problems. Anyone looking for a subaru equipped with a traditional automatic transmission will have to go with the subaru brz. Have had for 4 months vehicle is worse, rpms drop to near zero, car. Subaru is a metal belt driven cvt with pulleys while the power sharing transmission uses a planetary gea. Cvt vs manual transmission purchasing soon subaru xv. Trade up to a new subaru with more industryleading safety and technology features. Subaru outback manual transmission seals advance auto parts. This transmission is an evolution of the 5mt splitcase design, and does not share any parts with the stis 6mt transmission. Subaru motor vehicles have used manual, conventional automatic, and continuously variable. View and download subaru 2016 outback owners manual online. Subaru outback 20102014 problems, fuel economy, pros and cons. Subaru auto vs manual offroad comparison after my first test of the new auto off road i. Subaru is recalling certain model year 2010 outback and legacy passenger vehicles manufactured from july 31 through december 1, 2009.
That bulletin said a problem with the torque converter on the 2010 12 outback and legacy models could result in a condition similar to coming to. Several subaru vehicles offer alternatives to the cvt. I am a very experienced winter driverraised in minnesota, have lived in many other snow states, and even in greenland. Used 2010 subaru outback for sale with photos cargurus. The stepless gear ratio allows the engine to run within its optimal power range for improved fuel economy, while its lightweight, compact design helps the. The constant, stepless acceleration of the lineartronic cvt eliminates shift delay altogether, generates smooth, linear acceleration and boosts drivetrain efficiency. It is supposed to be driverside in front of the firewall.
Towing a pop up camper with a 2017 subaru outback for challenger gas automatic transmission i think cvt 4 answers. Its weighty stainless steel construction and broader cylindrical surfaces. Nov 24, 2017 the issue with cvts, especially for gear heads and car guys and gals, is they are generally considered soulless. Subaru s lineartronic continuously variable transmission cvt was first made available in the 5th generation legacy and outback.
A continuously variable transmission functions as if it had an infinite. I took my 2010 subaru outback to my dealer to have. Subaru outback cvt general discussion car talk community. Used subaru outback with manual transmission for sale. Watch this before buying a subaru or mazda duration. My 9699 transmission specs and possibly other years. Cvts on their own are very efficient but like most things that are very efficient in life they are boring. If you have your heart set on three pedals, then the cvt wont satisfy get the 6speed and enjoy it. Aug 24, 2009 new for 2010 are two transmission choices, a sixspeed manual or a cvt automatic. Subaru design subaru of america official subaru site. See owners manuals, videos about your subaru, frequently ask questions and more. Also please check out the statistics and reliability analysis of subaru outback based on all problems reported for the outback.
You would use your new subaru xmode all the time if you knew. Subaru is recalling all 20102014 model year legacy and outback vehicles equipped with a manual transmission mt, to replace the electronic parking brake epb actuator. Subaru outback questions towing manual or automatic. The transmission first failed due to a solenoid open circuit that disabled the car. Nov 29, 2017 in late november 2017, subaru extended their cvt warranty for 1. Why most cvt transmission cars are terrible youtube. Jul, 2009 great car this 2010 subaru outback 2010, i bought one on dec 2009, fills great in the road and best in long trips, very very comfortable and roomy inside, powerful enough with the 167 hp motor. Complete auto transmissions for subaru outback ebay. Owners are scheduled to receive a recall notice by midnovember, according to. Cvt warranty extension in the interest of customer satisfaction, subaru of america, inc. The powertrain options on new outbacks are as follows.
Subaru legacyoutback transmission problems page 12. If you dont mind autos, the theres nothing to worry about with the cvt. Facing complaints, subaru offers extended warranties on 1. This transmission is an evolution of the 5mt splitcase design, and does. After this event the transmission would on occasion disengage while still on drive. Cvt vs manual transmission purchasing soon jump to latest.
Another thing to keep in mind is that while the manual transmission distributes power equally. Request a dealer quote or view used cars at msn autos. Our main reason for chosing cvt is the mpg it offers. However, many drivers desire a vehicle with a different transmission. The cvt is available as an option on the wrx limited and premium trims. Jul 10, 2017 subaru is extending the warranty for owners of certain subaru models with the cvt transmission. Can anyone tell me where the auto transmission fluid dip stick is located on a 2010 outback 2. Looking at a pop up camper that i believe weighs 2600 pounds dry. Cvts manual mode increases driver involvement and makes the vehicle more fun to drive. Automatic transmission problems of subaru outback part 1. The repairedrebuilt subaru auto transmission offered by subaru gearbox australia is an excellent alternative to buying second hand. If you are wondering can i get a subaru without a cvt. This is only in regards to the cvt, not the htcvt found in the xt trims.
Were the best subaru forester owners forum to talk about the best years of the subaru forester, modifications and reliability history of the subaru forester. Critics praised its design and subaru s own engineers claimed it would require no maintenance for the life of the vehicle. Subaru outback owners have reported 48 problems related to automatic transmission under the power train category. To see how frequently 2010 subaru outback problems occur, check out our car reliability stats. Standard equipment includes power window, locks and mirrors, plus a tilttelescopic steering wheel, an amfm stereo with a cd player, steeringwheel controls for the audio and cruise control, manual air. Read this if your 20102014 subaru legacy or outback has a.
Sep 07, 2017 that bulletin said a problem with the torque converter on the 2010 12 outback and legacy models could result in a condition similar to coming to a stop in a manual transmission equipped. I know how to drive on snow and ice, and this issue scared me almost to death. See our lemon odds and nada odds page to see vehicles with no repairs or vehicles with more than three repairs. This part is manufactured by one of the most trusted names in the automotive industry to keep your. As many others here have heard from subaru, my dealer told me the cvt fluid should never be touched. While they may seem similar, the actual platform that each of these cars use is different.